The Never Summer Premier Snowboard Review by The Good Ride
Sizes- 161 and 165
Bindings- Flux Feedback, Flux SF 45, Burton C60, Burton Co2, Burton Cartel
Boots- Burton SLX, Burton Driver X, Nike Kaiju
Days on this board- 10+
The Premier F1-R was a super fun All Mountain/ Big Mountain board. It's a well built great take on reverse camber freeride, also a very damp board. We have ridden this board for 3 years now trying the 2010, 2011 and 2012 models. All of these were hybrid rocker and all ride very similar to one another. The only real thing we have noticed is each year they reduce the squirrely ultra loose feel between the feet when flat basing and one footing. Even the 2012 Premier is still much more happy on an edge but it's getting better.
Groomers- It's just fun to make wide open turns with this board on the corduroy. There is nothing wrong with choosing the Premier F1 R if you are a groomer whore. Our only complaint is the boards rocker in the middle can make it a little squirrely if you try to flat base but each year this is getting a little better. It is carve friendly and we couldn't get the tail to wash out on an aggressive carve. That impressed us for a reverse camber but it needs to be on an edge in order to have a stable feeling. This isn't very noticeable in soft conditions but it stands out when the conditions get really firm.
Powder- The reverse camber and taper make the Premier F1 R incredibly easy to stay afloat. We'd like to see the directional rocker that the Never Summer Raptor has but it still is excellent in any depth of powder. You will be very happy if you want one board for powder, off piste and groomers. They will just plow through crud, sierra cement, and haul ass when you get into the flats on the way back to the chair. This is not very surfy but it will float well in the powder and probably never get buried. We like how the tail is more pin tail like than the nose but don't know if it really helps in powder. At least it makes you think it does.
Speed- This is one of the fastest reverse camber board we have ridden. On really good or soft conditions we felt this was just like it's cambered freeride competitors in terms of dampness and stability. On hard firm days we noticed that the rocker and camber does have the same trappings that many many hybrid camber boards have. As long as you are on a rail you are fine but if you try to flat base it can get a little squirly. In 2011 and 2012 NS has worked on this problem and it's less squirrely than the original that came out in 2010 but it's still a bit loose.
Weight- This board will never win any awards for being light weight. That seems to be a trait with most Never Summer boards. Your first reaction when you get on the chair is this board is going to suck. But when you make your first turn you completely forget that this board is on the heavy side. All their boards are incredibly sturdy and the weight has something to do with long term reliability.
Turn initiation- The turn initiation is still in the freeride category where it takes a little work. It definitely has more of the positives of camber and rocker. Due to the wider waist and stiff flex the Premier is going to be a bit more difficult to get from edge to edge than many other hybrid rocker boards. The one advantage is the hybrid rocker shape is already helping you point the board in the right direction of the turn.
Carving Ability- Because the nose and tail is bent back down but not all the way it keeps you from washing out when making a hard carving turn. We had a lot of fun carving on the premier. Most of us felt that we were a little happier carving on the Never Summer Raptor but this was very close. This doesn't mean that it's going to be that way for everyone but our guess is we liked the raptor better because it had a narrower waist or seemed a bit more stiff/springy when it came to coming out of a hard carve. Still this is a great board to lay out a hard carve on a well groomed morning run.
Edge Hold- Many rockered snowboards haven't addressed edge hold properly but the Never Summer Premier holds an edge in almost every condition you want to ride in. Never Summers' side cut (variogrip) definitely compensates for the lack of contact a rockered board has. It's going to be fine in almost any situation and it doesn't have the ultra grippy feel that most magnetraction boards have. It's like a mellow magnetraction. We can't say this will grip ice as well as magnetraction but it never slipped in any of the conditions we rode in. We'd say this lies on the good side of excellent.
Stiffness- The Premier is stiff but some how it has a playful flex. It can bust some crud. One of the days we rode this it was pretty choppy with wet crappy spring snow at the top and hale/rain at the bottom. It was all chewed up by the end of the day and this board had no issues getting through it.
Switch- Not bad for a directional tapered board but definitely not as good as a twin or even some other directional boards.
Pipe- You can stop in the pipe with the Premier and not feel sketched out if you are riding a smaller size but why would you? This is for the other side of the park fence and if you are riding the right size you should not be lapping the park with this.
Rails Boxes/Jibbing- This is a big stiff board that isn't made for anything inside the park.
Jumps- This board will shine hitting something natural and depending on the size you choose it isn't that bad at all on a man make kicker. You wont have issues landing switch but it isn't something dedicated to the roller coaster part of the park.
Overall this is an excellent balance between a cambered freeride board and dedicated powder board. We put this at the high end of freeride snowboards.
The Good Ride Take on Hybrid Rocker Snowboards
This is what we call a snowboard that has rocker in the center and then a camber bend at the tip and tail. The end result is the tip and tail are still off the ground but it helps bring some good qualities that people liked with camber to rocker. The camber usually keep’s the board from washing out when you lay into a harder carve and for the most part provide a more balanced all conditions ride compared to continuous rocker or camber. This is still nothing like camber board and it provides a loose forgiving catch free ride. Hybrid Rocker comes in all riding styles from Freestyle to Freeride and is a solid next step from where it started with continuous rocker. Hybrid Rocker is usually pretty poppy, floats well in powder, catch free and very forgiving. The one complaint is it can still be unstable flat basing or one footing in some conditions like hard pack or ice. The major companies are working on this problem and it’s been getting better since this was introduced. Most love this loose feeling and get use to the squirrely nature in certain conditions. We at The Good Ride feel this is one of the better shapes out there so give it a try.
