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The Good Ride TakeThe Burton Joystick Snowboard Review by The Good RideSize 157 Riders- 5'10", 200lbs size 9 shoe. 5'11" 175lbs, size 8.5 shoe The Burton Joystick is a very fun board but like all boards its not perfect. One rider called it a poptoctopus due to the Burton Malavita Est with "hinge tech" that is new for 2012. Before the Malavita with Hinge Tech the Joystick was still rather lively but the 2012 Malavita EST's really made the board more poppy. The Joystick has been and is a great board but our only real complaint is the edge hold. This is a very fun freestyle board that can make someone very happy in the park as long as they don't care that much about edge hold. Groomers- The Burton Joystick doesn't have all that it takes to be a great groomer board despite it's all mountain freestyle claim. The Joystick's continuous rocker make this fun to jib around the mountain but not ideal for high speed carvy groomer assaults. It can make many people happy if you take a freestyle approach to groomers. Powder- The Joystick didn't experience any powder with us on it but we can say that it will perform very well for a board of it's size and shape thanks to the EST/Channel tech and the rocker it has. The float will be effortless and it will be fun for a freestyle approach to powder. Turn Initiation/Carving- The Burton Joystick is incredibly easy to turn. Going from edge to edge is quite easy. The kink between the feet that makes what they call V-Rocker is quite easy to play around with when it comes to short turns and ok with larger dynamic turns. We felt the Joystick lacked what it took to make a good carving turn and found this to be pretty disappointing. The tail washed out when it came to almost any carve of even moderate proportion. Boards like these aren't designed for carving but it's nice if they can let you go from jib to carve to jib all over the mountain. Speed- The Joystick is pretty chattery at higher speeds and this isn't an all mountain bomber. This is all about the park or a park approach to the mountain so you shouldn't expect much here. Still this is fine with almost any speed you need in an average size park. Weight- On the light side of things. Not a feather weight but not something that will affect your knee when sitting on the chair. Edge Hold- Probably the only place where we feel Burton needs to work on this board. If this had better edge hold the Burton Joystick would be a glorious all conditions freestyle snowboard. The Frostbite Edges have no bite and it makes this board only fun in good conditions. If you take it out on hard pack or less than ideal conditions you will find your edge washing out too much. Flex- Pretty soft and very playful yet still has a lot of pop. One of our issues with the Joystick and many Burton boards is they seem to have a sweet spot weight wise for riders that are much lighter than most of our average riders at The Good Ride. If you are pretty heavy this board won't match the description and flex. If you are on the lower end of their weight range then you will feel it's pretty close to how they say it rides. Still the board is made well and shouldn't break. Rails/Jibbing- Very fun to stop in the jib park or slide down a technical rail. This is one of the Joysticks better traits. The lack of edge hold here makes the board slide very easy over almost everything out there. If you are a little on the heavy side this is an excellent board to jib with. If you are pretty light there are other boards that have an even lesser flex that would be better. Pipe- No fun in the pipe. It was too soft for us and didn't have enough edge hold. It slid everywhere. Jumps- Really fun to jump with. The ability to create your own air is quite fun and Peter called this a popaloptypus of a board when he tried this with the Burton Malavita Est that have hinge tech. This is a game changer and makes any board a lot more springy than it would be with other bindings. Still even with regular bindings without hinge tech the Joystick will be pretty poppy. This will be really fun with just about any
All in all this can be an awesome board for someone who mainly rides good conditions and loves the park. We have to say that many times we ignor the weight recommendation that the companies have but Burton's is pretty much dead on. Still if you want to get a softer all mountain freestyle board or a pure park board for good conditions this isn't a bad choice. Also when paired with the Burton Malavita Est this has incredible pop and its hard to recommend any other binding with this board. This is where it all started or re-started in the Mid 2000’s. In the beginning Continuous Rocker was mainly for park and powder. Today it's still pretty much made for the same 2 functions. There are a few boards that are made for all mountain to freeride use but most of those have migrated to hybrid shapes. Continuous Rocker helps you maintain a catch free forgiving ride which is excellent for beginner riders or those who ride at slower playful speeds through the park. Almost every one we have tried has to be on edge or it will wander giving you that squirrely feeling like a skateboard with loose trucks. The biggest issue is it isn't very stable flat basing or one footing in firmer snow. Continuous rocker is for the most part really poppy and helps you generate your own air. There are many styles of this shape so this could be a good choice for beginners, park rats and people who only ride powder.
The Good Ride Take on Burton Burton is huge. They have developed or acquired most of the technology that we use today. Burton is one of the only companies that can provide you with everything you need to snowboard from boards to beanies. Burton even owns arguably the best surfboard company Channel Islands because Jake likes to surf. They are like the Yankees of snowboarding because they can always outspend their competition to win. The positives- Burton provides more products for each gear/clothing/accessory category than any other company. Burton has possibly the best customer service in the snowboarding industry. Burton continuously spends more money than almost any company to develop new tech or just make what they have better. Burton sponsors more pro’s and get’s more high level user feed back than any other company. They have some of the best boots, bindings and boards in the industry. They also have great clothing. The bottom line is Burton is the 800lb patriarch of our industry that makes good stuff and backs it up with good customer service. The snowboarding world owes soo much to them but at the same time they can be very frustrating when it comes to price and proprietary technology.
Company InformationBurton Joystick 2012
JOYSTICK Super futuristic fast forward freestyle.
Redefining real life by giving you video game control, the award-winning Joystick™ is all about making really good riders even better. NEW Squeezebox core science joins forces with Jumper Cables equipped with carbon power rods to make this, hands down, the snappiest V-Rocker™ on offer. Playful when you want it to be, yet serious when approaching high score, this beast rides like an altered reality.
Ridden by: Chris Sörman
Features + Gondola Package + The Channel + BEND: V-Rocker + SHAPE: Twin-Like + FLEX: Directional + CORE: Super Fly II™ with Dualzone™ EGD™ + FIBERGLASS: Triax™ Fiberglass with Carbon I-Beam™ + BASE: Sintered + SIDEWALLS: 10:45™ + EXTRAS: NEW Squeezebox, Jumper Cables Hi-Voltage, Scoop, Frostbite Edges, Ellip Kicks, Pro-Tip™, and Infinite Ride™
Diecut Base Color Combinations May Vary
Sizes: 150cm MID (248 WW) 154cm MID (250 WW) 157cm MID (252 WW) 161cm MID (255 WW)
156cm WIDE (257 WW) 159cm WIDE (259 WW) 163cm WIDE (261 WW)
Feel: 4 Burton Joystick 2011 Burton JOYSTICK Take control of your game. Back and even better, our most award-winning board has been upgraded with the mega pop of NEW Jumper Cables Hi-Voltage. Pushing V-Rocker™ into uncharted territories, the Joystick™ balances a forgiving feel with high-speed stability and Frostbite Edge for added control on ice. Ridden daily by the likes of Euro powerhouse Chris Sörman, high-flying Jack Mitrani, and backcountry boss Mikey Rencz, the Joystick is ready for another season of making really good riders even better. Features + Gondola Package + The Channel + ROCKER: V-Rocker + SHAPE: Twin-Like + FLEX: Directional + CORE: Super Fly II™ Core with Dualzone™ EGD™ and Negative Profile + FIBERGLASS: Triax™ Fiberglass with Carbon I-Beam™ + BASE: Sintered + EDGES: Frostbite Edges with Grip and Rip™ Tune + SIDEWALLS: 10:45™ + EXTRAS: NEW Jumper Cables Hi-Voltage, Scoop, Ellip Kicks, Pro-Tip™, and Infinite Ride™ Artist: Dave Kinsey www.kinseyvisual.com Sizes: 150cm MID (248 WW) 154cm MID (250 WW) 157cm MID (252 WW) 161cm MID (255 WW) 156cm WIDE (257 WW) 159cm WIDE (259 WW) 163cm WIDE (261 WW) Feel: 4 V-Rocker
Continuous rocker between your feet and in front of your feet towards the tip and tail creates catch-free playfulness and improved float from peak to park. Frostbite Edges enhance power and grip, balancing the board’s overall loose and forgiving feel. Burton Joystick Board Details 2010WINNER OF TWSNOW’S GOOD WOOD BOARD TEST. SNOWBOARD MAG PLATINUM PICK. Unlock secret levels. Driven by the explosive riding of guys like Jack Mitrani and Chris Sörman, the NEW Joystick™ is an all-mountain destroyer that will propel you to new levels. Balancing warp speed edge control and drive with force field stability on takes-offs and landings, the Joystick pushes V-Rocker™ performance into entirely new territories. Forgiving and fun, yet incredibly agile and aggressive, three-stage rocker designs don’t get more turbo-charged than this. V-Rocker SHAPE: Twin-Like FLEX: Directional CORE: Super Fly II™ Core with Dualzone™ EGD™ and Negative Profile FIBERGLASS: Triax™ Response Fiberglass with Carbon I-Beam™ BASE: Sintered EDGES: NEW Pressure Distribution Edges with Grip and Rip™ Tune SIDEWALLS: 10:45™ EXTRAS: The Freestyle Scoop, Elliptical Kicks, Pro-Tip™, and Infinite Ride™ Sizes: 150cm (248 WW) 154cm (250 WW) 157cm (252 WW) 161cm (255 WW) 156cm WIDE (257 WW) 159cm WIDE (259 WW) 163cm WIDE (261 WW) Feel: 4
SpecsBurton Joystick 2012 Specs
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Burton Joystick and Joystick Wide Review
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Joystick 2011 154cm
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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
The good stuff:This board is very playful and fun to ride in the easier slopes. Pretty sick in the park as well. Lands great due to its forgiving feel. V rocker boards are great in the deep stuff. Also pretty good to ride switch. The boards is directional in its flex but you dont really feel that much. Pretty good pop for a rocker board due to the new added pop carbon strings, I rode the 2010 as well and its a difference. The 2011 is slightly softer in its flex somewhere between a 2010 hero and a 2010 joystick. So good shit: Park Jibbing POW. The not so good stuff...: I can NOT recomend this board for pist riding and high speed riding. If its icy on the slopes stay in the deep stuff. If you dont have deep stuff.... Ride park! This board wont handle ice at all its really horrible on hard packed snow. Fun turns in high speeds? Forget it as this board just wont handle this as well! Really not good if you want high speed carving. Bad stuff: High speed turns and riding on an icy pist/ Hardpacked snow Im from Sweden so we got pretty much of icy snow so its kinda lame to ride when the conditions are bad. The board is killing it in the park and in the pow very fun to jib around with as well. Perfect board if pow and park is your priority! Not so good if you are blasting down the slopes and speed is your thrill! The base is durable and holds wax very good. I have ridden on some rocks in the backcountry (by misstake) and they barely made a scratch on the base=). |
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Reviewed by Mark
January 11, 2011 |
Joystick 2011: 159 Wide for a 230 Lbs guy who's 5'11''
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8 of 8 people found the following review helpful
Finaly rode the 2011 159 Wide Joystick… here’s the scoop:The diffrences are kindda sutle, there’s not a ton of diffrences from riding a conventional Camber board, it basically breaks down like this… 1) Edge to Edge, feels quicker or you could say that it’s easyer to turn from one side to the next, it’ eliminates that tiny dead zone between going from one edge to the other. 2) It felt like it didint hold an edge as well as a traditinal camber board, so if going super fast and having a super responsive board the type of riding you do, thatn V-rocker isnt for you… if you like to cruise down the mountain, then it’s a pretty playful board. 3) I didi some 360?s and mixed up turns, and is a bit more forgiving that traditional camber… but like I mentioned at the start… pretty sutle, it’s not like your going to notice a tremendous difference between both. 4) felt that it I put my weight more at the middel of the board, then it could hold an edge to some extent… kept on dreading to hit ici spots. 5) I could manual it a bit easyer than a traditional camber. 6) one very important fact to consider is… Im 5’11” and 230 Lbs, and the board performed very well, I think I could have even gone a tad smaller if I really wanted to. 7) defently easier to lay it down flat and get speed vs. traditional camber, at least to me it felt like that. when I hit patches of fresh snow, it felt like it plowed out of any situation with out catching and edge. I recomend this board to a Beginer or intermediate level, or some one that wants to progress their riding, in my humble opinion, makes things a bit easier. Only thing I would not recomend it for is to drive it super fast, if fast is your kind of riding… stick to a traditional camber, if you like to turn, carve and enjoy yourself coming down the mountain, than this could be a cool option. Thanks, hope this review is of help to some one out there… |
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Reviewed by Ramon
November 23, 2010 |