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Burton Fish Snowboard Review

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$599
Advanced to Expert Powder
Hybrid Camber (S-Rocker) Tapered Directional Shape
For the most surfy/slashy approach to the deep stuff out there.  Some people love this type of board and others aren't super stoked on this type of riding.  The smaller sizes for deep pow are counter intuitive but it works due to all that nose sticking up. If you want a super surfy pow board and have $600 for a pow stick then add the Burton Fish to your quiver. The incorporation of S-Rocker (pow specific rocker) in 2011 adds a new level of float ability but still gives you a little control on your way to the deep stuff.   A larger somewhat ssimilar alternative to this board is the Rome Notch swallow tail with S-Rocker.  We'll talk trash but secretly be jealous of you.  S-Rocker has a mini camber in the mid to back section and then a crazy curve up from the front foot to the tail.  It makes it a little more stable than continuous rocker when riding on groomers.  We personally aren't into riding so far back on the tail and prefer the more centered stance o  n a board this tapered but the Fish is one of the best tail riding surfy snowboards out there that do this. It's great negotiating trees and steep chutes.  Not much has changed from 2011 to 2012.  The did bring back the 2010 150cm for smaller powder riders.

How It Rides

Groomers Average   Speed Good
  Flex Med/Stiff   Rails/
Jibbing
Rough
Powder Excellent   Weight Light
  Carving
Average   Pipe Rough
Turn Initiation
Super Easy   Edge Hold Good   Switch Rough   Jumps Average

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The Good Ride Take


The Good Ride Take on Rocker/Reverse Camber Boards- At first rocker tech was mainly for the park and powder.  Now we are seeing many different riding styles of reverse camber and it's slowly establishing itself outside of the park as a viable solution.  There is one recurring theme of adding extra edge hold between the feet that seems to be what most people are stoked on.  Of course Mervin (Lib-Tech, Gnu & Roxy) lead the charge with the most edge hold and have rocker boards that ride as well or better than cambered boards. Many other companies have a solid understanding of the importance of adding a little extra edge hold between the feet as well.  Reverse Camber is not for everyone yet but this year almost every company has a rocker/reverse camber or flat rocker board so don't be a hater and go ride a few.  Some have a totally different feel that anything you have ever ridden and others are just a more catch free version of a traditional board.  We aren't sure on how reverse camber will play out but we will say that thanks to reverse camber we are riding in new ways and styles that continue to make this sport progress.  We thank Mervin and K2 for mixing it up and reintroducing functional rocker to our world! The creativity of the snowboard world has even lead to skiers hopping on our design bandwagon again!

The Good Ride Take on Burton

Burton is huge. They have developed or acquired most of the technology that we use today. Burton is one of the only companies that can provide you with everything you need to snowboard from boards to beanies.  Burton even owns arguably the best surfboard company Channel Islands because Jake likes to surf.  They are like the Yankees of snowboarding because they can always outspend their competition to win.

The positives- Burton provides more products for each gear/clothing/accessory category than any other company.  Burton has possibly the best customer service in the snowboarding industry.  Burton continuously spends more money than almost any company to develop new tech or just make what they have better.   Burton sponsors more pro’s and get’s more high level user feed back than any other company.  They have some of the best boots, bindings and boards in the industry.  They also have great clothing.

The Negatives- Because Burton spends so much money on sponsorship and tech they have to pass this cost along to the products they sell.   They relentlessly continue to jack up the prices every year.  You are almost always going to get a good product from Burton’s higher end line but some mid to low level products don’t stack up to the competition in the same price range.  Burton always tries to make proprietary tech like the channel tech and 3 hole binding tech so you can only ride Burton Gear which sucks! We wish they wouldn’t act like the Microsoft of snowboarding.

The bottom line is Burton is the 800lb patriarch of our industry that makes good stuff and backs it up with good customer service.  The snowboarding world owes soo much to them but at the same time they can be very frustrating when it comes to price and proprietary technology.

 

Company Information

The Burton Fish 2012

Burton 

FISH

Deep snow levitation.

 

The Terje and JG-designed Fish changes the way you ride powder. Built for speed and tapered more than any board in the line, it combines S-Rocker™ with a Swallow Tail to further enhance float, punch, and acceleration. Complete your quiver with the NEW Fishcuit 50. With additional taper and the equivalent surface area of a Fish 56, this pocket rocket increases tight-terrain mobility without sacrificing float or crud-busting stability.

 

Ridden by: Terje Haakonsen and Stephan Maurer

 

Features

+          Gondola Package

+          The Channel

+          BEND: S-Rocker

+          SHAPE: Directional [30-35MM Taper]

+          FLEX: Directional

+          CORE: Super Fly II™ with Dualzone™ EGD™

+          FIBERGLASS: Triax™ Fiberglass with Carbon I-Beam™

+          BASE: Sintered WFO

+          SIDEWALLS: Slimrail

+          EXTRAS: NEW 150cm Fishcuit, Swallow Tail, Ellip Nose Kick, Pro-Tip™, and Infinite Ride™

+          Downsize 3 to 6cm From Normal Board Length [4 to 8cm for Fishcuit 150cm] 

 

Diecut Base Color Combinations May Vary

 

Sizes:

150cm (257 WW)

156cm (255 WW)

160cm (258 WW)

164cm (261 WW)

 

Feel: 5


The Burton Fish 2011

Burton 

FISH

A decade deep.

A decade of powder days and the Fish™ keeps getting fresher. Featuring our rocket-propelled WFO base and a NEW 164cm powder shark, the Terje and JG-designed Fish is built for speed and tapered more than any board in the line. S-Rocker™ combines with the Swallow Tail to further enhance float, punch, and acceleration, while The Channel offers unlimited stance options and the ability to ride barefoot with the NEW EST™ ThinBED™ accessory.

Features

+          Gondola Package

+          The Channel

+          SPRINGLOADED: S-Rocker

+          SHAPE: Directional [30MM Taper]

+          FLEX: Directional 

+          CORE: Super Fly II™ Core with Dualzone™ EGD™ and Negative Profile 

+          FIBERGLASS: Triax™ Fiberglass with NEW Carbon I-Beam™ 

+          BASE: Sintered WFO  

+          EDGES: Grip and Rip™ Tune 

+          SIDEWALLS: Slimrail  

+          EXTRAS: NEW 164cm, Swallow Tail, Ellip Nose Kick, Pro-Tip™, and Infinite Ride™

+          Downsize 3 to 6cm From Normal Board Length  

Sizes:

156cm (255 WW)

160cm (258 WW)

164cm (261 WW)

Feel: 5

S-Rocker

Speed and float are your friends, and that’s what S-Rocker is all about. Entry rocker extends from the nose to under your front foot, then transitions to camber between your feet. Compressing the camber causes the entry rocker to naturally lift the nose, thus improving float while maintaining momentum and stability through deep-driving pow turns and variable conditions.

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The Burton Fish 2010

Never too deep.

When you’re absolutely pitted, goggles caked and rendered useless, choking on turn after bottomless turn, there’s no better friend than the Fish™ Limited. Built for speed and tapered more than any board in the line, the Terje and JG-designed Fish features a Swallow Tail and S-Rocker™ to maximize float, punch, and acceleration. The Channel offers unlimited stance options, and the ability to surf barefoot with the EST™ ShredBED™ accessory.

S-Rocker

SHAPE: Tapered [30MM]

FLEX: Directional

CORE: NEW Powder Fly III™ Core with Dualzone™ EGD™ and Negative Profile

FIBERGLASS: Triax™ Response

BASE: Sintered N2O WFO

EDGES: Grip and Rip™ Tune

SIDEWALLS: NEW Surf Rail

EXTRAS: Swallow Tail, Elliptical Nose, NEW Tail Pinch, Pro-Tip™, and Infinite Ride™

Downsize 3 to 6 cm From Normal Board Length

Sizes:

150cm (247 WW)

156cm (255 WW)

160cm (258 WW)

Feel: 5

Specs

The Burton Fish 2012

 

  Fish Snowboard Fish Snowboard Fish Snowboard Fish Snowboard
BOARD SIZE 164cm 156cm 160cm 150cm
RUNNING LENGTH 1230mm 1155mm 1190mm 1100mm
WAIST WIDTH 261mm 255mm 258mm 257mm
SIDECUT DEPTH 22.25mm 21.25mm 21.5mm 20.1mm
SIDECUT RADIUS 8.51m 7.86m 8.24m 7.53m
STANCE WIDTH 560mm 530mm 560mm 530mm
NOSE WIDTH 320.5mm 312.5mm 316mm 314.7mm
TAIL WIDTH 290.5mm 282.5mm 286mm 279.7mm
EFFECTIVE EDGE 1275mm 1200mm 1235mm 1145mm
STANCE LOCATION 75 75 75 75
WEIGHT RANGE 145-195 lbs. / 66-88 kg. 120-170 lbs. / 54-77 kg. 125-175 lbs. / 57-79 kg. 90-140 lbs. / 41-64 kg.

 

 

The Burton Fish 2011 Specs

  Fish Snowboard Fish Snowboard Fish Snowboard
BOARD SIZE 156cm 160cm 164cm
RUNNING LENGTH 1155mm 1190mm 1230mm
WAIST WIDTH 255mm 258mm 261mm
SIDECUT DEPTH 21.25mm 21.5mm 22.25mm
SIDECUT RADIUS 7.86m 8.24m 8.51m
STANCE WIDTH 530mm 560mm 560mm
NOSE WIDTH 312.5mm 316mm 320.5mm
TAIL WIDTH 282.5mm 286mm 290.5mm
EFFECTIVE EDGE 1200mm 1235mm 1275mm
STANCE LOCATION 75 75 75
WEIGHT RANGE 120-170 lbs. / 54-77 kg. 125-175 lbs. / 56-79 kg. 145-195 lbs. / 65-88 kg.

The Burton Fish Specs 2010

BOARD SIZE 150cm 156cm 160cm
RUNNING LENGTH 1100mm 1155mm 1190mm
WAIST WIDTH 247mm 255mm 258mm
SIDECUT DEPTH 20.5mm 21.25mm 21.5mm
SIDECUT RADIUS 7.39mm 7.86mm 8.24mm
STANCE WIDTH 505mm 530mm 560mm
NOSE WIDTH 300.5mm 312.5mm 316mm
TAIL WIDTH 275.5mm 282.5mm 286mm
EFFECTIVE EDGE 1145mm 1200mm 1235mm
STANCE LOCATION 75 75 75
WEIGHT RANGE 80-130 lbs. / 36-59 kg. 120-170 lbs. / 54-77 kg. 125-175 lbs. / 56-79 kg.
BINDING SIZES Medium Large Large

Pictures

The Burton Fish 2012

 

The Burton Fish 2011

 

The Burton Fish 2010

 



The Good Ride Take on Rocker/Reverse Camber - At first rocker tech was mainly for the park and powder.  Now we are seeing many different riding styles of reverse camber and it's slowly establishing itself outside of the park as a viable all mountain solution.  This was re-vitalized mainly by Mervin (Lib-Tech, Gnu & Roxy) and K2 also put out a board at the same time.  This change in technology really makes it an exciting time for the sport of Snowboarding. We are seeing all types of technology out there but so far there are 2 predominant themes: 
1. Pure Rocker where the board slowly curves up from the center.
2. Rocker and Camber where there is either a mini camber in the center or the board or the tail and nose bends back down.  Everything seems to be trending toward this type of design over straight camber.
The Positives
Reverse Camber helps you maintain a catch free forgiving ride which is excellent for beginner and Intermediate riders.  It’s also great for people who want to work on their game.   It rides excellent in Powder and floats better than almost any cambered board.  It helps you out of those situations where you could bog down.  It is also incredibly fun to jib around on and hit rails/boxes.  Some love reverse camber (especially rocker/camber) in the pipe and on jumps.  So far the rocker/camber combo’s seem to be winning out over straight rocker.  It provides more stability and is working its way into an all mountain ride.  
The Negatives
the biggest issue we see is they are not very stable in the flats.  The Rocker/Camber combo’s do a lot better than the Pure Rocker boards but they still don’t track very well compared to a cambered board.  Almost every one we tried has to be on edge or it will wander.  The only ones that didn't had a mini camber between the feet and those were our favorite.  When you straight line a reverse camber board and get it up to high speeds it feels less stable than a cambered board.  Some rocker/camber boards are getting very close but if you are about speed then a cambered board is the better choice.  When it comes to pop the cambered board still wins out. 
Is Camber dead?
In our opinion no way.  There is still a purpose for camber right now and many at the good ride still love camber for groomer and hard pack days. Reverse Camber is not for everyone yet but this year almost every company has a rocker/reverse camber.  Some companies don’t even offer a cambered board any more. It is our suggestion to go ride a few and form your own opinion. You might find a quiver board or even your primary board. We aren't sure on how reverse camber will play out but we feel that the next few years it will continue to evolve. We will say that we are riding in new ways and styles that continue to make this sport progress.  We thank K2 and especially Mervin (Lib-Tech, Gnu and Roxy) for reintroducing functional rocker to our world! The creativity of the snowboard world has even lead to skiers copying us again!

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