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The Good Ride Take

Burton Custom Flying V Rocker Snowboard Review

Boards Tried- 159, 160, 158
Bindings- Burton Custom ICS, Burton Diode EST, Burton
Days on the board 14
Riders- 2

When Lib Tech and K2 re-introduced rocker a few years ago, Burton claimed it was a fad and said it wouldn't last.  After a few years of the entire market going rocker, Burton realized they needed to make a rocker to catch up with the game. They called it V-Rocker in 2010 and then Flying V Rocker in 2011/2012.  Now V-Rocker is just continuous rocker - it rockers in the middle, bends back down a bit at the bindings but not all the way and then bends back up.  This is one more bend up than the Never Summer, Rome, Lib-Tech and Gnu boards.

First let's address the difference between most hybrid rocker boards and Burton's Flying V Rocker.  The best way to do this is in a picture.

Here is what most people are doing with hybrid rocker.  There is rocker in the middle and then the camber doesn't make it all the way back down.

As you can see with Burton there is one more rocker bend than the hybrid rocker most people have out there.

Our initial impression was that the Custom V-Rocker's medium flex did not translate to the slopes like the camber version did.   We were pretty surprised that this board won an all mountain award because we felt it to be way more on the buttery side of all mountain.  It will also be a good beginner board for athletic people who are committed and want to push it, and for intermediate and advanced riders. Most expert riders will have fun in most places in the park, but will get a bit frustrated if they want to hit higher speeds riding the mountain.  We like that there is still a choice between camber custom and rocker custom.  We hope it stays that way because each board has strengths over the other.

Groomers & Carving- The place where most riders find out a lot about their boards.  We were expecting a little more from the Custom Flying V here when it came to an all conditions ride.  In good conditions, if you take a jibby/buttery freestyle approach to groomed runs, this is a dream.  It's not bad laying out a mellow carve and picking up moderate speed, but if you like to make aggressive carves and bombing, this is not ideal.  The tail holds better than a pure rocker board, but it still doesn't compare to some of the other hybrid boards out there.  You can feel it start to give out when you make a really aggressive carve where some other hybrid rocker boards we tried didn't do this.  When the snow gets hard, the bord will begin to chatter,  and a lack of edge hold and instability will come out.  We could actually feel the nose/tail slapping on the hard to icy snow and it made a very unique sound.  It also wasn't the easiest to one-foot off the chair to, and had an ultra loose feel between the feet.  

Turn Initiation- The V-Rocker and soft shape makes it incredibly easy to turn.  For the editor, who is pretty heavy, it turned too easily.  For Mary, who has a bad ankle, the easy turn worked out well and was far better than her Cambered Custom 156 - that is what makes this such a great intermediate board.  It makes it easier to do anything you are trying on the mountain.  If you like to exert little effort in your turns, then look to the Custom. 

Powder- This is one of the areas that the Custom V-Rocker performs better than the custom camber and many hybrid rocker boards.  The V-Rocker's extra kink-up in the board gives this board a lot of float and allows you to take more of a park approach to a fluffy day.  It also reduces rear leg burn and makes it fun to ride in almost any powder set up.  Its quick turn initiation can handle a tight tree run and can bomb a hill without any sketchy feeling that you would have on a hard pack day.  It is ideal for riders with a little more cash in their pocket who can have the Custom and the Custom V-Rocker to ride depending on their moods.  Of the two Customs, the V-Rocker is definitely the choice for powder.

Edge Hold-  The pressure distribution edges give the Custom V-Rocker more edgehold than it would if it was just a normal side cut, but we felt it didn't come close to holding an edge like many other hybrid rocker boards.  On a few of the days that we rode this board, there were very hard spots and some areas had super hard snowment patches.  It slid across the snowment like it didn't have edges where other boards we rode that day held an edge without a problem.  On normal hard pack in the steep stuff it's ok, but we'd like to see a little more of an extension between each foot.  If Burton added more edge hold, the V-Rocker would make a really good all conditions ride.

Speed- In good conditions this isn't too bad, but in hard conditions the board's tip and tail bounce around when going at medium to high speeds. It's a common problem with some rockered boards, but for some reason, it's really a problem with the Custom Flying V-Rocker.  The center of the board has the most contact with the snow and is pretty stiff, but the tip and tail bounce so much that the chatter feels like it works its way through the entire board. You can also hear it hitting the hard snow and it makes a unique sound similar to a bike with a card in the spokes.  After a while you get used to it, but this is not ideal when riding at high speeds and can be a bit rough.  It tends to wander from edge side to edge in a squirrely type of manner, but this is nothing new to rocker/camber boards as it is one of the most common problems.  So, in good condtions, we would call the speed good, but in hard conditions, it's average.

Stiffness- It might have the same stiffness as the camber custom but for some reason when riding, the V-Rocker doesn't seem as stiff.   It's on the softer side of medium and feels pretty flexy. 

Jibbing, Rails and Boxes- It's not bad for a mid flexing board.  We guess that is what The Good Wood Awards means about all mountain, it is better than many boards of it's flex.  It's loose with a lot of rocker so it can butter from the top to the bottom of the mountain.  It's still not as good as many of the softer burton boards but it's one of the better all mountain boards for jibbing.  This doesn't own the rails and boxes world, but again it's pretty good for a mid flexing board.  If you weigh 180+ it will be easier because it seems like Burton's sweet spot is set up for lighter riders.

Switch-  This is a twinish shape that is almost the same as the camber custom, but because of the v-rocker the board does a great job riding switch because the nose and tail aren't really initiating the turns like a camber board would.  It's almost like a twin. 

Pipe- The Custom V-Rocker isn't the best pipe board but good if you like to lap the park.  The lack of edge hold won't be great climbing an icy pipe wall but it will be fun for soft spring sessions and is forgiving enough to help you learn the pipe or try new things.  For us, we'd use something else.

Jumps-  The mini camber near the tail in this rocker/camber combination helps keep the board pretty springy and playful.  We weren't in the mood to go big but the Rocker Custom did pretty well on the jumps we hit.  Even though this board isn't a twin, it felt a lot like one with a centered stance hitting jumps.

The Final Take on the Burton Custom Rocker

To us, the Burton Custom Flying V felt too soft and playful to be the all mountain snowboard Burton said it would be. It was just not as stable on the mountain side of things as the camber Custom.  You can take it all over the mountain like Burton says, but it's more of an all mountain jib/cruiser/jump approach.  We'd love to see a little more edge hold and a little less chatter in the nose/tail, but still this is a really fun board for someone who rides in good to powder conditions and wants to do it all. 

The Good Ride Take on Hybrid Rocker Snowboards

This is what we call a snowboard that has rocker in the center and then a camber bend at the tip and tail.  The end result is the tip and tail are still off the ground, but it helps bring some good qualities that people liked with camber to rocker.  The camber usually keeps the board from washing out when you lay into a hard carve and for the most part provides a more balanced all conditions ride compared to continuous rocker or camber.  This is still nothing like a camber board, but it provides a loose forgiving catch free ride.  Hybrid Rocker comes in all riding styles from Freestyle to Freeride and is a solid next step from where it started with continuous rocker. Hybrid Rocker is usually pretty poppy, floats well in powder, catch free and very forgiving.  The one complaint is that it can still be unstable flat basing or one footing in some conditions like hard pack or ice.  The major companies are working on this problem and it’s been getting better since this was introduced.  Most people love the loose feeling and get used to the squirrely nature in certain conditions. We at The Good Ride feel this is one of the better shapes out there, so give it a try. 

Company Information

Burton Custom Flying V Rocker 2012

Burton 

CUSTOM FLYING V

Squeeze out every ounce of power.

The addition of Squeezebox to the Custom Flying V™ changes the game completely for riders like Mikkel Bang and Mads Jonsson. The thinner core underfoot transitions to thicker, more powerful areas between and outside your feet to optimize pop, snap, and handling. Considering this Flying V is already Springloaded with rocker float and camber stability, along with the electrified edge control of Lightning Bolts and Frostbite, it’s advisable you keep this board stored outside.

Ridden by: Mikkel Bang and Mads Jonsson

Features 

+          Gondola Package

+          The Channel

+          BEND: Flying V

+          SHAPE: Directional

+          FLEX: Twin

+          CORE: Super Fly II™ with Dualzone™ EGD™

+          FIBERGLASS: Triax™ Fiberglass, Lightning Bolts, and Carbon I-Beam™

+          BASE: Sintered WFO

+          SIDEWALLS: 10:45™

+          EXTRAS: Squeezebox, Frostbite Edges, Pro-Tip™, Infinite Ride™, and Progressively Wider Waist Widths

Diecut Base Color Combinations May Vary

Sizes:

148cm (245 WW)

151cm (248 WW) 

154cm (252 WW) 

156cm (253 WW) 

158cm (254 WW) 

160cm (255 WW)

163cm (257 WW)

155cm WIDE (256 WW)

158cm WIDE (258 WW)

162cm WIDE (260 WW) 

169cm WIDE (264 WW) 

Feel: 5 

2011 Burton Custom Flying V Rocker Description

Burton

CUSTOM FLYING V

Soar from peak to park.

Driven by the peak to park domination of Mads Jonsson, the NEW Custom Flying V™ revolutionizes all-mountain performance by strategically combining the overall radness of rocker with the snappy suspension and power of camber under each foot. Add in the all-wheel drive grip of Frostbite Edges and the mind-reading response of Lightning Bolts and the Custom™ is ready to change the game, yet again.

Features

+Gondola Package

+The Channel

+SPRINGLOADED: Flying V

+          SHAPE: Directional 

+          FLEX: Twin 

+          CORE: Super Fly II™ Core with Dualzone™ EGD™ and Negative Profile 

+          FIBERGLASS: Triax™ Fiberglass, Lightning Bolts, and Carbon I-Beam™

+          BASE: Sintered WFO
+          EDGES: Frostbite Edges with Grip and Rip™ Tune 

+          SIDEWALLS: 10:45™  

+          EXTRAS: Pro-Tip™, Infinite Ride™, and NEW Progressively Wider Waist Widths

Sizes:

148cm (245 WW)

151cm (248 WW)

154cm (252 WW)

156cm (253 WW)

158cm (254 WW)

160cm (255 WW)

163cm (257 WW)

155cm WIDE (256 WW)

158cm WIDE (258 WW)

162cm WIDE (260 WW)

169cm WIDE (264 WW)

Feel: 5

Take flight with V-Rocker’s next evolution. A premium blend of camber and rocker performance, Flying V™ offers the best of both worlds. Rocker overall, including between and outside your feet, enhances playfulness and float through pow. Underneath your feet, subtle camber zones combine with Frostbite Edges, EGD, and The Channel to focus edge-control for crisp snap, added pop, and power through turns.

Burton Custon V-Rocker 2010

WINNER OF TWSNOW’S GOOD WOOD BOARD TEST.

Burton CUSTOM V-ROCKER

Monopolize the entire mountain.

We’ve remixed the master with the game-changing feel and effortless control of V-Rocker™. Add souped up edges, a softer flex, and slightly wider waist width and you get a stick that’s precisely engineered to crank unbelievable turns, land more tricks, and add amplitude to your ollies. From jumpers to jibbers, pow slashers to cruisers—this is without a doubt one board that everyone will have a blast on.

The Channel

V-Rocker

SHAPE: Directional

FLEX: Twin

CORE: Super Fly II™ Core with Dualzone™ EGD™ and Negative Profile

FIBERGLASS: Triax™ Response Fiberglass, NEW Lightning Bolts, and Carbon I-Beam™

BASE: NEW Sintered N₂O WFO
EDGES: Pressure Distribution Edges with Grip and Rip™ Tune

SIDEWALLS: 10:45™

EXTRAS: Slightly Softer Flex, Pro-Tip™, and Infinite Ride™

Sizes:

151cm (248 WW)

154cm (252 WW)

156cm (253 WW)

159cm (255 WW)

163cm (257 WW)

Feel: 4

Specs

Burton Custom Flying V Specs 2012
BOARD SIZE	151cm	148cm	154cm	156cm	158cm	160cm	163cm
RUNNING LENGTH	1110mm	1080mm	1140mm	1160mm	1180mm	1200mm	1225mm
WAIST WIDTH	248mm	245mm	252mm	253mm	254mm	255mm	257mm
SIDECUT DEPTH	20.5mm	19.95mm	21.05mm	21.4mm	21.75mm	22.15mm	22.6mm
SIDECUT RADIUS	7.52m	7.32m	7.73m	7.87m	8.01m	8.14m	8.31m
STANCE WIDTH	530mm	505mm	530mm	530mm	560mm	560mm	560mm
NOSE WIDTH	289mm	284.9mm	294.1mm	295.8mm	297.5mm	299.3mm	302.2mm
TAIL WIDTH	289mm	284.9mm	294.1mm	295.8mm	297.5mm	299.3mm	302.2mm
EFFECTIVE EDGE	1152.5mm	1122.5mm	1182.5mm	1202.5mm	1222.5mm	1242.5mm	1267.5mm
STANCE LOCATION	10	10	10	10	10	10	10
WEIGHT RANGE	110-160 lbs. / 50-73 kg.	90-140 lbs. / 41-64 kg.	120-170 lbs. / 54-77 kg.	125-175 lbs. / 57-79 kg.	130-180 lbs. / 59-82 kg.	145-195 lbs. / 66-88 kg.	150-200 lbs. / 68-91 kg.
BINDING SIZES	Medium	Small/Medium	Medium/Large	Medium/Large	Medium/Large	Large	Large

Burton Custom Flying V Specs 2012
BOARD SIZE	155Wcm	158Wcm	162Wcm	169Wcm
RUNNING LENGTH	1150mm	1180mm	1215mm	1275mm
WAIST WIDTH	256mm	258mm	260mm	264mm
SIDECUT DEPTH	21.2mm	21.75mm	22.4mm	23.5mm
SIDECUT RADIUS	7.81m	8.01m	8.25m	8.66m
STANCE WIDTH	560mm	560mm	560mm	560mm
NOSE WIDTH	298.4mm	301.5mm	304.8mm	311mm
TAIL WIDTH	298.4mm	301.5mm	304.8mm	311mm
EFFECTIVE EDGE	1190mm	1220mm	1255mm	1315mm
STANCE LOCATION	10	10	10	10
WEIGHT RANGE	120-170 lbs. / 54-77 kg.	130-180 lbs. / 59-82 kg.	150-200 lbs. / 68-91 kg.	175-210+ lbs. / 79-95 kg.
BINDING SIZES	Large	Large	Large	Large

Burton Custom Flying V Specs 2011
BOARD SIZE	148cm	151cm	154cm	156cm	158cm	160cm	163cm
RUNNING LENGTH	1080mm	1110mm	1140mm	1160mm	1180mm	1200mm	1225mm
WAIST WIDTH	245mm	248mm	252mm	253mm	254mm	255mm	257mm
SIDECUT DEPTH	19.95mm	20.5mm	21.05mm	21.4mm	21.75mm	22.15mm	22.6mm
SIDECUT RADIUS	7.32m	7.52m	7.73m	7.87m	8.01m	8.14m	8.31m
STANCE WIDTH	480mm	505mm	530mm	530mm	560mm	560mm	560mm
NOSE WIDTH	284.9mm	289mm	294.1mm	295.8mm	297.5mm	299.3mm	302.2mm
TAIL WIDTH	284.9mm	289mm	294.1mm	295.8mm	297.5mm	299.3mm	302.2mm
EFFECTIVE EDGE	1122.5mm	1152.5mm	1182.5mm	1202.5mm	1222.5mm	1242.5mm	1267.5mm
STANCE LOCATION	10	10	10	10	10	10	10
WEIGHT RANGE	90-140 lbs. / 41-63 kg.	110-160 lbs. / 50-72 kg.	120-170 lbs. / 54-77 kg.	125-175 lbs. / 56-79 kg.	130-180 lbs. / 59-81 kg.	145-195 lbs. / 65-88 kg.	150-200 lbs. / 68-91 kg.
BINDING SIZES	Small/Medium	Medium	Medium/Large	Medium/Large	Medium/Large	Large	Large

Custom Flying V Wide Specs 2011
BOARD SIZE	169Wcm	155Wcm	158Wcm	162Wcm
RUNNING LENGTH	1275mm	1150mm	1180mm	1215mm
WAIST WIDTH	264mm	256mm	258mm	260mm
SIDECUT DEPTH	23.5mm	21.2mm	21.75mm	22.4mm
SIDECUT RADIUS	8.66m	7.81m	8.01m	8.25m
STANCE WIDTH	560mm	560mm	560mm	560mm
NOSE WIDTH	311mm	298.4mm	301.5mm	304.8mm
TAIL WIDTH	311mm	298.4mm	301.5mm	304.8mm
EFFECTIVE EDGE	1315mm	1190mm	1220mm	1255mm
STANCE LOCATION	10	10	10	10
WEIGHT RANGE	175-210+ lbs. / 80-95 kg.	120-170 lbs. / 54-77 kg.	130-180 lbs. / 59-81 kg.	150-200 lbs. / 68-91 kg.
BINDING SIZES	Large	Large	Large	Large

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